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Grateful DeadGrateful Dead Live at Winterland Arena on 1974-02-23 (February 23, 1974)

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Collection: GratefulDead
Band/Artist: Grateful Dead
Date: February 23, 1974 (check for other copies)
Venue: Winterland Arena
Location: San Francisco, CA

Source: Soundboard
Lineage: SBD> MR> DAT> CDA> SHN> DAW (Bertha)> CDA/SHN
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Keywords: Live concert


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Around & Around, Dire Wolf, Me And Bobby McGee, Sugaree, Mexicali Blues, Here Comes Sunshine, Beat It On Down The Line, Ship of Fools, Jack Straw, Deal, Promised Land-> Bertha-> Greatest Story Ever Told Row Jimmy, Weather Report Suite Prelude-> Weather Report Suite Part 1-> Let It Grow-> Stella Blue, Big River, Ramble On Rose, Me & My Uncle, He's Gone-> Truckin'-> Drums-> The Other One*-> Eyes Of The World, One More Saturday Night, E: Casey Jones, E: Johnny B. Goode**-> E: We Bid You Good Night

Notes

Bertha Remaster of the Master Reel source; SBD> MR> DAT> CDA> SHN> DAW (Bertha)> CDA/SHN, by Jay Ashley

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Average Rating: 4.56 out of 5 stars4.56 out of 5 stars4.56 out of 5 stars4.56 out of 5 stars4.56 out of 5 stars

Reviewer: Desert Mountain - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - February 24, 2014
Subject: My 35th Dead show
My first Dead show at Winterland. Was attending Art School in Oakland. I was 19 going on 20. To look at the set list boggles my mind. Epic length Dead concerts back then. What I remember from that night was being down on the floor about ten feet from the stage. A fair amount of intensity in the audience. My buddy Brother Wynn left early. I stayed until the end and made my way back to his house in the Sunset District.( 1441 47th Ave) . The only place with a tree in front of it on the block. That was Wynn's last Dead concert and I went on to see them 98 more times until 1995. Interesting that sound of the band changed so much from fall 73 to the spring of 74.

Reviewer: DeadEncore - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - October 4, 2013
Subject: This stuff needs to be released
The Dead w/ David L. In the vault are releasing a great deal of great stuff, but hopefully this run at the Winterland is in the plans. Truly love this night and as usual, when they peak your interest, they get your attention w/ versions of songs with totally different feels. Concur with the HCS and Promised land as deep shots over the green monsta or McCovey Cove depending on your coast. The entire band are all in the zone but this is most definitely a Keith Highlight reel.
Would love to get this at some point as my SAAB man cave loves nights like this at full volume.

Reviewer: Tidewater four ten O nine - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - February 24, 2013
Subject: No gaps
To the previous reviewer:

Just click the 'No pause/gaps between tracks' when burning to CD.

Reviewer: TDCarowindz - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - February 23, 2013
Subject: inserting silence
this SBD is balanced so nicely, just beautiful clarity and i love the nuances of being able to hear what was played and with all the emotion behind it. however i do have a thought i would like to get across to the wonderful people that work so diligently and give so much of themselves to rework and upload these incredible shows. to insert silence between songs that run together, especially when they almost always play them that way, i.e. scarlet/fire, china/rider, drums/space really takes me out of the flow and groove of the music, it really disrupts the beautiful flow of the way it was played and given to the us. i know you have to take in consideration some aspects of fitting a portion of the show to a disk size, but please, try not to kill the flow by inserting silence when its really not needed. maybe just notate the time frame where they kick into the next BLENDED song. i hope i didnt step on any toes here. this show is a fantastic 5, wish i was there, thank you for the great upload, the sound is top notch so yeah its a killer 5 all the way. take care and have fun, and be well people.

Reviewer: clementinescaboose - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - July 14, 2010
Subject: HCS
one of the best ever, no doubt.

this show is not as good as the night after, but overall, a very nice time here.

eyes is superlative...

Reviewer: gratedude69 - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - July 12, 2010
Subject: great
grate setlist here, the greatest is also superb its the reason im writing this

the promised land really rocks out too especially on the piano holy cow, what a set closer deal through greatest

Reviewer: limeydeadhead - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - April 1, 2010
Subject: super long
Great sound. Agree eyes is great. Does anybody do a 3 hour show any more? Now thats value for money. Big up the 70's sound R.I.P Jerr.....

Reviewer: sugareesalibi - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - March 23, 2010
Subject: I just had to dance...
listening to the Eyes and half way through the song just had to get up and start shakin' these bones! Keith sounds fantastic and Bill plays like a man on a mission. You can tell everyone feels right at home (and they were!).

Reviewer: BIG_R - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - October 17, 2009
Subject: 2-23-74
This is just wonderful both in performance and sound quality. For the first song or two Phil is audible but not huge. The sound man straightened it out quickly though. Even on my little shelf stereo he just thunders.The Other One is amazing!

Reviewer: BlackThroatedWindbag - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - April 30, 2009
Subject: Great review, pulp79
That was a very cool and comprehensive review, pulp79. I just started listening to this stream and zeroed in on Weather Report Suite, and it's pretty unbelievable. Let It Grow is spectacular--Bobby composed such brilliant pieces. Sounds great on my lousy desktop speakers.

Reviewer: pulp79 - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - April 30, 2009
Subject: Best night of the run..........
Had to chime in after the last guy brought the rating of this show down for no reason it seems.

Anyway, imo, this whole February Winterland run is exceptional, and I'd put it up there with the November run of the previous year. The songs here just drip with goo, especially Here Comes Sunshine, which I believe is the last great one, as I don't care for the 90's versions as much. Also, this version is performed at a faster clip, making it rather unique.

Phil's bass is very much up front, not unusual for the era, but it's so crystal clear hear, his bombs really will shake the roof if you have decent subwoofers. The Other One here is unreal, probably my favorite post-'72 version.

Oh, and you can't beat a late '73/early '74 Eyes. They perform this song so consistently well during this period I almost forgot to mention it. Very laid back, especially compared to the versions that followed in the year.

The whole show is extremely tight, yet loose at the same time, if that makes any sense. Meaning they are definitely in their adventurous mode here, yet their psychic level is at such a peak in late '73-early '74, that it's amazing how "on point" they are at every turn, highway, byway, and back alley they take throughout their jams, and in general during this period.

Do yourself a favor and get every show from Nov. '73 thru February '74. Go ahead and throw in 3/23/74 as well, and see the drastic change in their live sound once the Wall of Sound is introduced.

This show and 2/22 get somewhat overshadowed by the final night, but that has more to do with the well-circulated, good-quality copies that have existed for two decades than anything else. That and the fact that Dark Star was played. This, imo, is the stronger show, overall. I'll gladly take a definitive Other One over an almost-great Dark Star any day of the week.

Great job by Mr. Ashley, as always. It's... well...just exactly perfect.

Reviewer: Winsome_Holstein_Nebuula - 2.00 out of 5 stars2.00 out of 5 stars - January 29, 2009
Subject: Uh Oh, This Seems To Be Working, Better Fix It Quick
The "Beta" version wroked just fine and everyone was happy. It was simply a matter of time before some technical guy/gal decided to fix it.

Rating is for the New Improved Streaming Tool

Reviewer: roch - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - January 15, 2009
Subject: Why can i only play songs 1-11?
Why can i only play songs 1-11? I can play no songs when i open this through internet explo. and only 1-11 when i open with firefox? Great show

Reviewer: Evan S. Hunt - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - November 9, 2008
Subject: Final HCS Til 92...
...and their only version in 1974 according to DeadBase.

Only reason they dropped this song for 18 years is because they played the heck out of all the times they played it and realized that it was such a great song, as is, that they had gone as far with it as they thought they could. // Sometimes an artist recognizes when they have peaked on something and they just want to preserve it and move on.//

The 1990's versions of HCS are not nearly so well done. Perhaps it was just too hard a song for Jerry to sing. I mean, you try to sing all those "Here comes sunshine's" and feel how you make out -- you'd be so winded from trying to reach all those high notes that you'd thankfully change to a lower key two measures before the resolution. -- Maybe that's what happened to Jerry singing this song.
Whatever. This version is fabulous. Less the Nun.

Overall, in the first set, perhaps the band is just a bit off in this one. They are sort of sloppy on the first songs (naturally -- that was their usual M.O.) but it was not because they weren't trying. They played as well as they could and, perhaps to compensate for their general unreheasedness, they cut loose on a number of early tunes like Bobby McGee and Sugaree.

Was an audience member on this night trying hard to add to the motion, as well, and I think I did an okay job, but I wasn't atop my game on this night -- probably because I went so "all out" on the previous night. Perhaps I burned myself out the night before because I hadn't seen them since November 11th. They were so good in those days that if they were in town you went to every show and to every show did I go. If they would have played 30 nights in a row you/I would have attended.

Nonetheless, despite our perceived mutual tirednesses, the band came alive and there sprung suddenly new growth. You could definitely pick up on that vibe in the hall and then... they did their final 70's & 80's version of Here Comes Sunshine -- a version so perfectly shoehorned into the parabola of yesterday running into tomorrow, (literally! it had reached midnight), that it makes you sit back and focus.

Now fully warmed up and redder than glowplugs Jack Straw, Deal, Promised>Bertha>Greatest blast off the flanges and send the spheroid into an orbit of Jerry: Chuck 'n' Surf electric guitar.
This stuff is the stuff to which to dance and spin. Heavy Lead.

Ashley's Berthatizing spruces Phil up to ionospheric.

Jerry's Wolf shows off it's new technical upgrades and you can hear Jerry getting into the wah-wah ala Fire ala get the fork outta hire!

Set 2: An impeccable Row Jimmy. Then the band really kicks in on WRS. The sound is well-proportioned; all instruments are equally presented. They could have put this or a similar recorded version of its era, on the album Wake of the Flood and not had to rack up any expensive studio time. Voila! The essence of Dead. You're alive but you're dead, you're dead but you're alive!

This presentation reveals an interesting take on Keith and how heavily involved he is on it. He and Bobby mesh to bring out Jerry. When Jerry gets his nod he leaps feet first unto the fray. The mix of Jerry Bobby and Keith's fistfight -- punching back and forth in and out and up and down. Shameless, tooth-extracting!

It grows into a sweet, sweet, achingly sweet Stella Blue. Jerry's Wolf is licking its chops glistering. Saucy!

Then the band takes a breather. NOT !!! Big River, Ramble On, Me Uncle = Heavy Rock n rolla!

Once the Dead strike into He's Gone you know you've had it and this is one of those nights when the Dead come alive and without a gulp: right into Truckin' -- a supercharged Dixieland blues Truckin'! Glory Be! Strident electric guitars bebop piano/bass. Heavenly. Strident guitars! Boogie-Woogie! Surf and Turf! AAAAGHHH!

The crippled man leaping up standing Truckin'!

The final resolve makes you spin in your place... and ... into an impassioned Drumz. Oops, time to start the grill. Excuse me.

Will you go into the promised land again? or the other land promised...the other one into the eyes?

An eyes so pleasant and well-entreated that whatsoever falsehood was jabbing at yer beak, it quickly flew off and left no lasting mark.

Total Deliverance!

and just when you thought of yourself as unworthy!

in surges the Stronger Than Spanish Lysergic Equation: Spanish Jam. Double Total Deliverance!

Saturday Night? Casey Jones? JBG? WBYG?

All the stops = Gone!

One of the boy's favorite shows.

Reviewer: cHE13 - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - May 4, 2008
Subject: Golden Showers?
Great sounding and well played. I don't know about Golden Showers though. I've never had one to compare it too. I guess if you're into that kind of thing....if I were to make an analogy of that type I would use "a well placed facial" :)

Reviewer: rgc410 - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - February 21, 2008
Subject: Let it Grow!!!
The interplay between Jerry and Bob in this Let it Grow will blow your mind. The sound is amazing. I just listened to this 4 straight times at my desk at work. I'm sure I look funny bobbing up and down!

Reviewer: st. heathen - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - October 5, 2007
Subject: sick sick sick HCS
holy cr@p!!!

Reviewer: Carp JC - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - May 27, 2007
Subject: HOME COURT ADVANTAGE !
SEEMS THAT NO MATTER THE DATE 12-31- ETC. THE BOYS AWAYS SEEM TO NAIL IT AT HOME...... AND THIS JUST PROVES ME POINT ...... JERRY SINGS WITH SO MUCH GUSTO AND STYLE..... NOT JUST THE BALLET'S..... WHICH ARE ALWAYS GREAT BUT ANY TIME HE STEPS UP TO THE MIKE AND KEITH'S ON FIRE TOO ..... JUST GREAT TO BE HOME I GUESS.....

Reviewer: 3chrds - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - April 26, 2006
Subject: haha..phil in space!
phil in space...awesome! and he got the claps ta recognize. in fact, i was clapping too, here, at my desk. a good phil show indeed. and always loves the jerry. he's gone acapella part great, again phil doing great bass, this time vocals. and then, the "Golden Shower" part of he's gone, right after the acapella part, the beautiful trickly shimmering wash over you like a waterfall that you must surrender to. Golden Showers!

Reviewer: fmichael - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - February 13, 2006
Subject: this show
This is the best show I've ever been to and I've been coming regularly since 1973.

Reviewer: twickertweeds - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - January 25, 2006
Subject: its true
yea some people said it earlier and ill confirm it this here comes sunshine is just awesome i just got back on this site after the dead sbds were removed and i was just wondering is there any other way to get that music on cd?

Reviewer: StrawRider - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - October 18, 2005
Subject: Early '74 Dead
I simply love this Winterland show. I'm listening to Here Comes Sunshine while I burn a copy for a friend and it's pure bliss. The Wake Of The Flood material from this concert is so good- heck, they've had a year to get the tunes perfected! WRS>Let It Grow>Stella Blue is a prime example as well. The unique 74 sound is solid but the vocals seem a bit 'hollow' to me. That Wall Of Sound experiment worked on some levels but not when it came to the singing. But that's just my picky side talking.
This is a wonderful show and a damn fine recording.
Thanks to all the blessed forces at work that bring these concerts to my grateful ears via a few clicks of a mouse.

Reviewer: jackiestraw - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - July 31, 2005
Subject: woohoo
Smoking hot show, a toned down donna and a wonderful sound, definately 5 on the sound. I have heard better (most of 73),as far as the boys go. The HCS is wonderful, throw in a kieth and 1 drummer and in IMO you have the dead at thier best..rock on. a solid 4.5 overall

Reviewer: captain_trip_420 - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - July 14, 2005
Subject: Nice Bass indeed...
The sound is great, Nice Job AGAIN Jay.

Reviewer: happy420 - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - July 5, 2005
Subject: Early strains of
The lyrics for "Help on the Way" had not been completed by the first performance on 6/17/75...that version is complete, but instrumental.

Licks that would become the segue between "Help on the Way" and "Slipknot" appear in a number of jams in '74...turning up in "Playin", "the Other One", and "Eyes of the World".

This "Eyes" has a jam that was typical of the era which has modal movement very similar to "Slipnot" but without some of the more developed melodic themes...from about 9:30 to the very distinct melodic statement around 11:00 it is PURE "Slipknot". This is followed by a syncopated theme that appears around 12:00 and is repeated a couple times leading to the end of the jam.

I believe this series of themes were originally one continiual flow (probably the result of an improvisation which they then expounded upon in further performances), it would be interesting to find the first "Eyes" with this arrangement added at the end of the jam and trace it's development from there. Once the "Slipknot" themes started to take on a life of their own, the whole segment was dropped from "Eyes".

Jerry obviously had those figures in his head for quite a while before figuring out what to do with them.

It's a neat window into the Dead's creative process...many of the songs on "Blues for Allah" were completed instrumentally before the words were finished. On the out-takes for "Blues for Allah" included in the "Beyond Description" boxed- set there is a tune called "Hollywood Cantata" which is "The Music Never Stopped" with completely different lyrics! They are absolutely terrible by the way, and have no relation whatsoever to the classic song it became...thank god Bobby didn't settle!

Reviewer: Scott Moen - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - May 4, 2005
Subject: Great Show
Great Show, very crisp sound. Better than the night before for sure. The He's Gone>Truckin is something else. The WRS and the Here Comes Sunshine are out of this world. A must Download.

Reviewer: skwimite - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - March 29, 2005
Subject: best post eyes jam
This show is little spotty, but the Big River is one of my all time favorites, and the He's Gone thru Eyes is one amazing piece of work. The Other One is WAY, WAY out there, only to come back to a very sweet, gentle swinging Eyes. The post Eyes jam is right on the money, no flubs. It burbles up like champagne out of a bottle. This gets 5 stars for the jam alone.

Reviewer: Charles Schaefer - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - March 13, 2005
Subject: Nice Bass
I've only heard the vbr of Here Comes Sunshine but Phil's bass is outstanding and the highs are nice and clean. Good job "bertha"! Sounds like they're having a blast.

Reviewer: sperry - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - March 10, 2005
Subject: good good oh so good
Nice sound, nice easy laid back 74' playing with lots of slickness and thoughtful music.
The HCS is faster than those played in 1973. However, I have no complaints. In fact, its excellent. the rest of the set is solid.
I haven't even listened to the second set yet, but judging by the mood the boys were in this evening, I won't be disappointed.
The sound is a little crunchy, but considering this show is more than 30 years old, it's not that big of a deal.
cheers.

Reviewer: Mark Michaels - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - February 23, 2005
Subject: Objectivity?
Reviews are inherently subjective opinions, not objective, scientific analysis! Judging a show based on it's sound quality or whether Jerry or Bob forgot some lyrics is just silly. Nearly every show has a couple of flubbed verses, or even songs....that doesn't mean they're 4 star instead of 5. If the show rocks, if the set list is hot, and the sound is at least fair....then I can overlook the imperfections. An analogy would be to look at Michelangelo's David and say "...too bad his arm got busted...4 stars!". Who doesn't have a dusty old 8th gen cassette of some early 70s or 80s show that deserves 5 stars? The astounding quality of some SBD recordings now available on the archive does not take away from the authenticity of those older recordings.

Reviewer: Don Juan - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - January 11, 2005
Subject: Come on, have some objectivity
I realize there are a lot of great moments in this show but it's really odd that all of the reviewers here so far have given it five stars when it really doesn't deserve more than four. Already half way through listening to it it's clear that the first set was shaky with problems with the sound, Jerry forgetting some lyrics and some unharmonized vocals. You guys have to have a little more objectivity when you are reviewing these shows. Weather Report Suite was the best I've ever heard played in concert. I like how it transitioned into Stella Blue; that was nice. If it wasn't for the poor sound quality in the beginning I'd give it 4 1/2 but then again it's either four or five. Then I'd stick to four still because of Jerry missing the lyrics on Ramblin' Rose. Still I'm downloading it. Perhaps if I can get some editing software I'd edit out a couple of songs in the beginning. My recomendations for potential downloaders: Download This Puppy!!!

Reviewer: bolo the supreme hypnocrat - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - January 5, 2005
Subject: A word of WARNING:
Dear Gentle Listener,
As you approach the He's Gone on this show be forewarned...Beyond that line there be monsters...Big, fat, hairy, only the Dead could put this kind of smile on my face monsters...They're all over the place!!!...Oh, you'll see them all right...They like to
Twist their arms around you, slap you till you cry,
Wrap you in their sweet perfume and love you till you die...

Reviewer: capn doubledose - 5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars5.00 out of 5 stars - December 11, 2004
Subject: A must+++
I cannot believe how hot hot hot this show is and this copy in particular which is flawless on the remastered level albeit with a few glitches at the master level dan had no control over.

The first set is really nice with some lesser played classics like dire wolf, bobby mcgee, and the hcs is smoking. liked the greatest story and bertha alot as well. it is set II however that really shines... this crackles with powerful winterland energy and you can hear and smell the crowd it is that visceral to the senses.... wrs, he's gone truckin and the unreal other one>eyes. this is a keeper enjoy...

Reviewer: lchange43 - 4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars4.00 out of 5 stars - November 5, 2004
Subject: great master remix bertha
early start of a massive tour with unbelievable shows ,this one is a great job of the remix bertha is really the masterv of the remaster.
healy in disqiuse keep up the great shows
ans keep up the reviews
lchange43